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Adjusted for Risk: DoubleLine's Cohen - We Like Shorter Duration and Up in Quality


The latest episode of Zephyr's "Adjusted for Risk" podcast, hosted by Zephyr's Market Strategist Ryan Nauman, delves into the dynamic world of fixed income with the insightful Robert Cohen, Director of Global Developed Credit at DoubleLine. Let's break down the key takeaways from this engaging conversation.

Introduction: A Market Overview

The first half of the year has been a whirlwind for markets, with the S&P 500 enjoying a decent run and technology sectors booming. Despite headline-grabbing tariffs still in play, financial markets like equities and fixed income have shown resilience. Ryan Nauman sets the stage for a deeper discussion on fixed income, particularly crucial for financial advisors molding investment portfolios.

Meet Robert Cohen

Robert Cohen, a leading mind in global developed credit, shares insights into DoubleLine's comprehensive approach to fixed income, covering treasuries, corporate credit, securitized credit, and emerging markets. DoubleLine aims to be a one-stop shop for fixed income needs, emphasizing their commitment to robust investment strategies.

A Bit of Macro Insight

Addressing the macroeconomic themes of today, Cohen points to tariffs, inflation uncertainties, and fiscal challenges as significant influences on the market. Highlighting the volatility in treasury markets, Cohen discusses the outlook on U.S. growth, corporate earnings, and the role of the yield curve as a recession indicator. Despite lingering uncertainties since 2022, Cohen remains optimistic about the economy's resilience.

Impact of Services and Tariffs

The U.S.'s evolution into a service-driven economy plays a pivotal role in mitigating the adverse effects of tariffs. While certain industries face pressures from high rates and tariffs, the broader services sector helps cushion these impacts, underscoring a more stable economic environment.

Corporate Credit and Market Dynamics

As for credit spreads, Cohen sees them narrowing and maintaining stability, reflecting market confidence. However, he notes that the lack of credit creation and supply constraints have influenced these spreads. Cohen emphasizes the importance of weighing credit against equities, asserting that credit remains appealing amid competitive equity markets.

Navigating Risk and Reward

Cohen recommends a strategy focused on higher quality in credit markets, as spreads offer limited rewards for additional risk. He outlines scenarios where credits perform in slow-growth economies and suggests taking a cautious approach in the face of uncertain growth and lending environments.

Active Management: A Necessity

With markets moving faster than ever, Cohen underscores the importance of active management. DoubleLine's team of experts is equipped to navigate these rapid changes, identifying and acting on anomalies in real-time. Passive strategies, particularly in fixed income, fall short in this dynamic environment.

Global Opportunities and Diversification

International fixed income, buoyed by a depreciating dollar, presents new opportunities as a diversifier and a return generator. Cohen predicts continued strength in this realm, presenting a favorable outlook for foreign investments alongside domestic counterparts.

The Path Forward for Financial Advisors

In closing, Cohen advises financial advisors to reevaluate strategies in light of the current market landscape. With a more attractive proposition in fixed income, advisors are encouraged to integrate more credit exposure into portfolios to balance equity risk and optimize returns.

Robert Cohen's insights provide a comprehensive outlook on the fixed income landscape, encouraging both cautious optimism and strategic diversification. For more on DoubleLine's thought leadership, visit their platform at doubleline.com.

Final Thoughts and Resources

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