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Adjusted for Risk: Meb Faber - The Art of Diversifying in a High-Valuation Market


In the latest episode of Zephyr's Adjusted for Risk Podcast, host Ryan Nauman engaged in an insightful conversation with Meb Faber, the co-founder and CIO at Cambria Investment Management. This episode delves into the shifting landscape of equity markets, investment strategies, and the unique challenges and opportunities faced by investors today.

A 15-Year Market Surge and Its Implications

Ryan Nauman set the stage by reflecting on the impressive 15-year run of equities, a period only matched by the post-World War II expansion and the dot-com boom. However, there’s growing speculation about an inflection point due to lofty valuations. Meb Faber, known for his extensive expertise, shared his perspectives on these developments in the financial markets.

Meb Faber: From Tahoe to Investment Management

Before diving into technical discussions, Meb took listeners on a journey through his early days in Lake Tahoe. From his origins as a self-professed "glorified ski bum," Meb transitioned into the world of finance by co-founding Cambria Investment Management. This narrative not only added a personal touch but also highlighted how life’s unexpected turns can lead to rewarding paths.

Diversification: A Comeback Narrative

Diversification, often tested during the equity market's golden years, has found renewed relevance. Meb emphasized the critical importance of breaking the home country bias. With U.S. markets highly concentrated, there’s a growing need to explore foreign and emerging markets, and even consider investments in real assets such as commodities and REITs.

Meb also introduced the concept of "market cap weighted" indices, revealing their inherent risks during bubble phases. Investing more as company sizes increase seems counterintuitive, yet remains a common strategy. Instead, Meb advises considering equal-weighted strategies, which can offer stability and greater exposure diversity.

The 351 Exchange: A Little-Known Strategy

A significant portion of the discussion revolved around the 351 exchange, a tax strategy allowing investors to diversify their portfolios while mitigating capital gains tax implications. Historically underutilized, this method is gaining traction, especially with the growing awareness of its benefits among financial advisors.

Meb explained how investors can contribute appreciated stocks to an ETF on a tax-neutral basis, allowing them to restructure their portfolios without immediate tax consequences. This innovative approach underscores the creative solutions available in today’s complex financial landscape.

Long-Term Trends and Future Conversations

As the conversation wrapped up, Ryan highlighted the profound insights gained from Meb’s strategies at Cambria Investment Management. From discussing shareholder yield as an investment strategy to envisioning future market trends, the episode provided listeners with invaluable advice.

Listeners are encouraged to explore more about Cambria through Meb’s blog and podcast, both rich resources for financial thought leadership. The possibility of a follow-up conversation centered around shareholder yield was also teased, promising further rich dialogue in future episodes.


Conclusion

This episode of Zephyr's Adjusted for Risk Podcast offers a comprehensive overview of current market trends and strategies. Meb Faber’s insights, coupled with Ryan Nauman’s engaging questions, provide a roadmap for investors seeking to navigate today’s market challenges with informed, diversified strategies. For those interested, deeper dives into these topics are accessible through Meb’s various platforms, ensuring that financial literacy and growth remain within reach.

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